The Observability Layer podcast · 2026-06-12

Anthropic asks for binding power to block risky models, as Washington negotiates preempting the states

Who holds the authority to say no to a frontier model, and who gets overruled, was the whole 24 hours. On June 10, Anthropic became the first frontier lab to ask governments for binding legal authority to block dangerous AI deployments, including its own, while explicitly warning Washington not to preempt state AI…

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ARTHUR

While at the same time, Washington is negotiating a deal to stop states from passing their own AI laws. And to top it all off, that same lab just shipped a new model that shows us exactly what this power struggle looks like in practice.

TRILLIAN

Let's start with the lab. On June 10th, Anthropic, the company behind Claude, published a new policy framework. What's the headline?

ARTHUR

The headline is that they are the first frontier lab to ask governments for binding legal authority to block dangerous AI deployments, including their own. They're saying transparency isn't enough anymore. Governments need a real 'no' button.

TRILLIAN

A 'no' button for what, exactly? Are they defining 'dangerous'?

ARTHUR

They are. They're focused on catastrophic risks: biological, cyber, loss of control, and automated AI R&D. And they're proposing it apply to models trained with over 10 to the 25 FLOPs from companies with huge AI revenues or R&D budgets.

TRILLIAN

So they're basically drawing a line around themselves and their biggest competitors.

ARTHUR

Exactly. You can read it as sincere safety policy, a compliance moat to keep out new players, or both. They also want mandatory third-party evaluators, which would formalize the work we're seeing from places like METR and Apollo.

TRILLIAN

Okay, but there was a really specific point they made about what not to regulate at the federal level, right?

ARTHUR

That's the live wire. Anthropic explicitly told Congress not to preempt state laws on non-catastrophic issues like child safety and consumer protection. They planted a flag directly opposite some of their rivals, like OpenAI, who have been lobbying for that preemption.

TRILLIAN

And it seems like that warning landed just as the opposite was happening in Washington. The very next day, The Hill reported on a major deal in the works.

ARTHUR

Right on cue. The report is that the White House and Senate Republicans are negotiating a package deal. The trade would be: pass popular bills like the Kids Online Safety Act and the NO FAKES Act for deepfakes, and in exchange, you get federal preemption over state AI laws.

TRILLIAN

So they're attaching something the AI industry wants, which has struggled to pass, to something with broad bipartisan support.

ARTHUR

It's a classic legislative move. And the preemption they're discussing is called 'subject-matter' preemption. It sounds narrow, but it would bar states from legislating on the exact topics they're most active on right now, like kids' safety and synthetic content.

TRILLIAN

And the states are definitely active. What's the latest?

ARTHUR

They're shipping bills. New York just sent seven AI bills to Governor Hochul's desk, covering everything from training data transparency to a ban on therapy chatbots for kids. Rhode Island just passed its own therapy-chatbot regulation. This is exactly what that federal deal would freeze.

TRILLIAN

So we have to remember this is just a reported negotiation, no bill text yet. But it shows the battle lines clearly. Anthropic says let the states regulate consumer harms; this deal says the opposite.

ARTHUR

And while this policy fight is happening, Anthropic actually built a version of this control system. The day before their policy paper dropped, they launched two new models: Claude Fable 5 and Claude Mythos 5.

TRILLIAN

What's the difference between Fable and Mythos?

ARTHUR

Here's the key: they are the exact same underlying model. The difference is the access architecture. Fable 5 is for the general public. If you ask it to do something risky, like an offensive cyber task, a classifier system catches it and routes your request to an older, less capable model instead of just refusing.

TRILLIAN

So it doesn't say no, it just gives you a less powerful tool for that specific task.

ARTHUR

Correct. But Mythos 5 is the same model with those safeguards selectively lifted for vetted partners. For example, a defensive cybersecurity firm in their Project Glasswing can use the full cyber capabilities. A biomedical researcher could get access to the full biology tools.

TRILLIAN

It's a know-your-customer system for AI capabilities. One set of rules for the public, another for trusted experts.

ARTHUR

Precisely. This is private law. Anthropic is deciding who is a trusted partner and exercising the exact kind of blocking and tiering authority it just asked the government to hold. It's a powerful demonstration of how this could work, and also a reminder that right now, these decisions are made entirely by the labs.

TRILLIAN

And it creates a new challenge for anyone trying to evaluate these models. You have to ask, 'Which Claude did you actually test?'

ARTHUR

It's a whole new wrinkle for procurement and for independent auditors. The access terms become as important as the model's performance.

TRILLIAN

Let's round out with a couple of other items you're watching.

ARTHUR

Sticking with the theme of control, a company called Drata just launched a product for 'AI Agent Governance.' It's another sign that managing fleets of AI agents is becoming a real product category, with tools for blocking actions and creating audit trails for regulators.

TRILLIAN

So the tools to enforce these policies are being built as we speak.

ARTHUR

They are. And on the international front, the UN's Institute for Disarmament Research is holding a conference in Geneva next week on AI, Security, and Ethics. Governance of AI agents in defense is on the agenda, so this conversation is happening at every level, from corporate products to multilateral treaties.

TRILLIAN

So, pulling it all together, what are the big takeaways for today?

ARTHUR

First, the debate has shifted. A major lab is now asking for hard, binding government authority over itself. That's new.

TRILLIAN

Second, the fight over who gets to write AI laws is getting transactional in Washington. The power to block state laws now has a price tag, and it's attached to popular bills on kids' safety and deepfakes.

ARTHUR

And finally, we're seeing the future of AI safety in action. Tiered access based on user identity, like with Fable and Mythos, is a powerful new form of private governance. Who gets the keys to the most powerful AI is no longer a theoretical question.

TRILLIAN

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